"Our earthly liturgies must be celebrations full of beauty and power: Feasts of the Father who created us—that is why the gifts of the earth play such a great part: the bread, the wine, oil and light, incense, sacred music, and splendid colors. Feasts of the Son who redeemed us—that is why we rejoice in our liberation, breathe deeply in listening to the Word, and are strengthened in eating the Eucharistic Gifts. Feasts of the Holy Spirit who lives in us—that is why there is a wealth of consolation, knowledge, courage, strength, and blessing that flows from these sacred assemblies." unknown source possibly YOUCAT Mal.1.11 For from the rising of the sun even unto the going down of the same my name shall be great among the Gentiles; and in every place incense shall be offered unto my name, and a pure offering: for my name shall be great among the heathen, saith theLord of hosts.

Wednesday, September 12, 2012

Peter in Rome--evidence Historically

The following is a quote about Peter being in Rome   (comment 110 here:http://www.calledtocommunion.com/2009/09/why-protestantism-has-no-visible-catholic-church/)

Here are some Father’s who mentioned Peter’s presence in Rome:

Ignatius of Antioch 107 AD
Dionysus of Corinth 166 AD / 174 AD
Irenaeus 180 AD
Gaius 198 AD / 217 AD
Tertullian
Clement of Alexandria
Origen of Alexandria
Porhyry of Tyre
Eusebius
Peter of Alexandria
Lactantius of Africa
Cyril of Jerusalem
Pope Damasus I
The list goes on, through Jerome and Augustine and so forth. As for making the jump from Peter’s primacy to his successor’s primacy. . . are you interested in discussing Clement and Ignatius in more detail? Because the jump looks clear to me.
Finally, you said: “But, there is no definable institution that we can call a hierarchy in the Apostolic and post-Apostolic churches.”
Andrew, have you read carefully the arguments that we’ve made about hierarchy in the apostolic Church? In what way is Peter’s primacy, and the apostle’s authority over others, and the deacon’s authority over still other matters not evidence for a definable institution that we can call a hierarchy? If that is not a hierarchy, then what is?
Sincerely,
K. Doran
see also  Was Peter the First Bishop of Rome?
By Oswald Sobrino, J.D., M.A.  link: PeterInRome.doc

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